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Post by poodlemadness on Jan 14, 2009 21:45:21 GMT
well well the kennel club have had thier knuckles wrapped and now they decide that they are now going to attempt to put the bulldog back t how it was before they spoiled it and made it suffer so many illnesses i'm all for this as it will help the dogs to live a nice healthy life but what happens to the poor dogs that are the breed standard they set before do they get thrown on the scrap heap along with all the other mistakes they make as they are now deemed not right and up to the breed standard all those breeders that have spent thousands breeding thier dogs to the breed standard now face uncertainty with the breed they have now created in the name of the kennel club,this is not something that will happen in our lifetime it will take some time i know but i can't help worrying about the poor dogs that will have the wrong face and the wrong legs and so on because things have changed again all dogs should have been left as they were from the start
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Post by brandykins on Jan 14, 2009 22:25:30 GMT
The Kennel Club makes me so bleeding angry! They have, over the years, changed dogs - look at the German Shepherds of today from what they once were!! I wonder who the Kennel Club think they are!! I would ban them completely. The bull dog and the GSDs are not the only dogs that have suffered changes. They disgust me. I sometimes wonder who these people are in the Kennel Club that were able to have dogs genes, or whatever you would call them, changed!!
Sorry for the rant - but I just do not like the Kennel Club.
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Post by micki on Jan 14, 2009 22:35:05 GMT
well its a move in the right direction.. many breeders are already breeding "olde Tyme Bulldogs" to reproduce what they once were.
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Post by poodlemadness on Jan 14, 2009 23:01:42 GMT
i know what you mean rose well they were once like the hitler regime and run by them too so hardly suprises you when they try to create the so called perfect dog as they did try to create the blonde haired blue eyed nation of people had they left well alone in the first place they wouldn't need to put things back to how they were i would personally boot the lot of them out i mean whose to say they wll get it right this time and as i said wat will now happen to the ones that look like they do now that don't conform
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Post by brandykins on Jan 15, 2009 0:18:24 GMT
Well said, Corinne, and I agree with you. I wonder who the brain boxes are behind the Kennel Club but as Micki has rightly said, it is a step in the right direction.
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Post by poodlemadness on Jan 15, 2009 9:06:46 GMT
step in the right direction i agree but the breeders are now arguing with the kc about the breed they have made them create to thier standard and alot are refusing to put the money in to change all over again, so it's all well and good that they have had the light bulb theory to put them back to how they were but now they have a fight on thier hands within thier own organisation never mind the general public to even begin to put this right i don't think we will see any changes within our lifetime the damage is too vast and i think alot of the breeders will dig thier heels in to keep them as they are all be it cruel to save them all the expense and the unwanted dogs and puppies they have that have this years trend face and body if only they hadn't have interferred in the first place the suffering and arguements could have been avoided they always say you should never mess with mother nature well i so agree leave it as it is animals managed to evolve without the scientist behind it before so leave them too it it will happen naturally if it is to happen i say
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Post by brandykins on Jan 15, 2009 12:12:16 GMT
I agree with what you say, Corinne. The Kennel Club should fork out the money for the breed change but as you say, it won't happen in this lifetime for the changes to take effect. I do feel for those who breed the dogs as they are today! I say that all the changes to all the breeds that the Kennel Club has said should be changed - the GSDs - they look all out of kilter. I say the KC should not have interefered with the breeds in the first place and perhaps the breeders should have rebelled and said no!!
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Post by zombieprincess on Jan 15, 2009 13:00:31 GMT
I was wondering when this discussion of this was to come up. I read an article on it yesterday. Although i am pleased the decision has been made, especially that of no closely related dogs to be bred togther, as it should help fight agasint genetic illness. What did irk me though is that they've only taken action now and it seems to be purely based on the fact that the BBC told them off! It should have been done years ago for the benifit of the poor dogs The damage that has been done is going to take so long to rectify, why do humans have to meddle with everything?It really annoys me.
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Post by poodlemadness on Jan 15, 2009 17:39:42 GMT
yeah quit right rose had the members of the kenne club rebelled years earlier against the breed diformaties we have today then we may not have got to this stage too little too late if you ask me but better something than nothing at all
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Post by Karen on Jan 15, 2009 19:07:37 GMT
Yeah they are now FINALLY going to take action towards one of the pedigree breeds - About time!!
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Post by poodlemadness on Jan 15, 2009 21:22:34 GMT
i know one is betterthan none but there are enough of the idiots who created it to do more than one breed surely or will that loose them too much revenue from breeding if they do too many at once they are selfish and greedy and i for one will never clap my hands and praise them no matter what they do as it was all thier fault to begin with we wouldn't be in such a situation as this had it not been for them and they are only doing it because they have been shamed into it by the bbc otherwise things would carry on as normal in th little kc world what makes me laugh is the people within the kc world are brain washed into thinking they are some sort of know all gods when this is further from the truth
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Post by lovezois on Jan 17, 2009 11:34:42 GMT
The Kennel Club do leave a lot to be desired, and are not blame free,but as far as | am aware it is the Breed Clubs who draw up the breed standards, in all breeds, and not the KC. So the blame in my opinion should be apportioned accordingly. Just my tuppenceworth.
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Post by brandykins on Jan 17, 2009 12:18:52 GMT
Thank you Eunice - that's what the forum is all about - to hear all the views, whether we agree, or not! Truth to tell, I always assumed it was the KC who set the breed standards but I don't know enough. However, sure then the KC could have still done something to stop what has happened to certain breeds and how they have changed, such as the Bull dog. The GSDs as well - look at the "gait" (for want of another word) of them - their hind quarters seems to have dropped and they look odd!
Just my view on this as well:)
Hope you are hail and hearty:)
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Post by lovezois on Jan 17, 2009 13:46:48 GMT
Hi Rose |In your earlier post you said you would ban the KC altogether, this being so can I ask just what would suggest to replace them, as it seems to me , though the KC are not perfect, without them it would be a free for all for the stupid registries set up by others which if your dog is registered with them does not mean diddly squat.
I personally think that if this happened that the world of pedigree Dogs would get into an even worse state than some breeds are at present and people would buy from puppy farmers and byb's who do absolutely no heath testing whatseover. Yes the KC is not perfect, but to me its better the devil you know than the devil you don't know. I think to get rid of the KC altogether would open up a very large can of worms .
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Post by poodlemadness on Jan 17, 2009 13:48:38 GMT
i always thought it was the kc too who set the breed standard thanks for that eunice but when all is said and done they worked together on this and it could have been prevented all the suffering in the breeds we have today would not be present and someone has to held accountable for it they argue that they want people to stop breeding so they can sort it all out rubbish they just want people to stop breeding so they can gain control of the dog breeding and selling again because here profits have dropped since folk had their eyes opened to it all by the bbc well i say bbc for shining that light upon the cruelty within
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