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Post by ilovecornsnakes on Feb 22, 2009 14:07:31 GMT
They would also have to be very thorough and make sure the person is the murderer. I remember reading and my Dad telling me about it, 10 Rillington Place (think it was that) about Christie and a young couple who stayed up the stairs from him, Timothy Evans and his wife and baby. His wife and baby were murdered and he, poor soul, was charged and found guilty and sentenced to death. He told the authorities it wasn't him and to check out Christie. His pleas were ignored and he went to the Gallows still maintaining his innocence and saying it was Christie. Christie moved on and an Asian family (I think it was) took over his house and one tapped the wall and it was hollow so they opened it up and inside were bodies!! Christie was then tracked down and arrested and it came out that he did, in fact, murder Timothy Evans' wife and baby! So Timothy Evens was posthumously pardoned - poor chap!! I believe too that it was a difficult hanging. I agree that the death penalty should be brought back, but it would have to be really proved that the person was guilty - and in the case of the Yorkshire Ripper, Hindley, Brady and their ilk would have been hung and the tax payer would have been quids in!! When will the judicial system ever change I wonder!! Ours must be the worst in the world!! The softly-softly approach isn't working at all. i said that the evidence would have to be perfectly sound on the murderer been the murderer, but some sick so-and-so mass murderers / serial killers have actually admitted and boasted bout some of their killings from what i've seen and heard on the programs i've watched, one guy in the US said he'd show the cops where the bodies were burried / hidden / how many he'd killed if they gave him imunity from death sentance in that state and they did , he tried it in another state - he'd killed over a hunderd people and was wanted in more than one state - but they didn't give him imunity so i don't think all the bodies have been found yet. (i watch them to see how the skills i'm learning are used by proffesionals and to see if i think thats a jobs i'd like to do. so far it creeps me out some of the things thy have to look at, e.g. postmortems.)
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Post by micki on Feb 22, 2009 14:07:34 GMT
for child killers and serial killers id be happy for them to bring back "hang draw and quartering" let the crowds cheer as these animals suffer. if my child was killed thats wot id want but i guess thats not gonna happen so id be satisfied with simple hanging i suppose.
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Post by ilovecornsnakes on Feb 22, 2009 14:21:38 GMT
for child killers and serial killers id be happy for them to bring back "hang draw and quartering" let the crowds cheer as these animals suffer. if my child was killed thats wot id want but i guess thats not gonna happen so id be satisfied with simple hanging i suppose. sorry micki but i disagree with that, course they don't deserve a quick low pain death - very few give it to their victims - but i feel a public execution would give them the infamy that they obviously want and may give other people a taste for blood encouraging them to kill too. a quick out of the way death - e.g. putting them down like with animals who are suffering - would keep protestors from saying that they suffered too much, though most of the world probably thinks 'kill them how they killed others' or in a lower more degrading fashion, but i think even if they did kill many people a quick death is surely cheaper, and less in the public eye.
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Post by micki on Feb 22, 2009 17:53:01 GMT
I can see ur point Lindsey but if one of my children were killed at the hands of someone like Brady who basically made those children fear for their life before killin them... a quick out of the way execution isnt wot id want for them. id want it nice and slow so during the process they can reflect on wot brought them to this point... and if it was one of my children id want to witness every second of the execution with the killer fully aware of my bein there.
i know my views are str5ong on this subject and accidental murder is one thing but premeditated serial murder is something else.. ive other "of the wall" views on what id use these killers for, another way of giving something back to society but that discussion is for another time.
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Post by ilovecornsnakes on Feb 22, 2009 18:07:51 GMT
in the old days they used to use convicted criminals like murderers to study how the circlitory system worked by cutting them open and watching while they were still alive. i supose if there was anything to be gained from that sort of study then some people would think it should still go on. and i know full well that a 'quick way out' isn't what victims families want for the murderer who took a part of their family away, bt i also know causing pain to some one else won't bring back the one you lost.
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Post by micki on Feb 22, 2009 18:15:23 GMT
but it'd make me feel a hell of a lot better Lindsey.
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Post by ilovecornsnakes on Feb 22, 2009 18:20:26 GMT
well just hope to high heavens it never happens. i've already lost my grandad (on mums side) to illness, and great grandma (on dads side) to old age - and the years of smoking probably didn't help - but natural deaths are just that, natural, deaths from murder must be a lot more difficult to get over cause of all the planned things that the person could have done with their life are ended by force.
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