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Post by hooch on Jul 17, 2012 19:23:47 GMT
>:(Just read a piece in one of my local newspapers...about Lennox...all the usual about him being a dangerous dog ect ect...and about how the poor BCC came under attack with death threats bla bla...the reporter must have done the interview with someone from the council...their were no positive things said about Lennox...if i was reading the story for the first time i would be led to believe he was a very dangerous dog!!...very one sided ..xxx there is no doubt im my mind that BCC did come under attack , one of the dog wardens that backed up some of ms lightfoots evidence was verbally abused and had her property vandalized , her disabled son was beaten up and left with a black eye. www.irishcentral.com/news/Belfast-dog-warden-terrorized-as-Save-Lennox-the-dog-campaign-continues-119391419.html#ixzz20uO8sv00singling out a disabled child who had nothing to do with the campaign whatsoever is disgusting and i fear this whole campaign has done more harm than good , i wouldn`t at all be surprised if the campaign did diddly squat , apart from putting to death other peoples dogs much sooner once it has been ordered by the courts , wouldn`t be at all surprised to hear that legislation is changing regarding the way cases like this are handled , something to the effect. if you go over to the BCC council facebook page , it`s littered with death threats and other malicious things , comments have been left and not deleted because it is all under investigation.. i watched a video on youtube the other day folks from the campaign found hilarious , a video which called out to others to target violence towards sandie lightfoot the dog warden. lennox campaigners ARE purchasing that song that`s been made , i don`t condone that in anyway shape or form. i can post it up if admin say`s it`s okay but the language used in it IS vile! lennox was deemed dangerous by three people , one wasn`t an expert whose opinion was taken into consideration , the other was an expert for BCC and the other expert didn`t get chance to testify because her information on lennox was suppressed by the very people that employed her to assess him. the two other experts said he were safe as long as he were confined to a secure place and muzzled , yet the one of them wouldn`t touch him with their own hands and used a 'fake' rubber hand instead. the evidence against lennox far outweighs the evidence given by two people that `testified` he were okay. had the owners kept his license details up to date , lennox probably would have never been singled out as the BCC employee`s wouldn`t have had any reason to visit his families home address. take a few steps away from the case and look at it from a logical point of view , all the employee`s of BCC were doing , was their job , i wouldn`t have their jobs for all the money in the world , period. that`s me speaking before the case came to light i definitely wouldn`t have wanted it afterwards. lennox was one dog , the fight for many others to be returned to their families should continue , others being dignified quietly going about their business to have their dogs returned to them , i`ve never ever seen a campaign cause so many problems , yes there were fault on both sides , what you can`t argue with is the facts presented in court , which don`t make good reading. the family lost the moral high ground as soon as the threats surfaced and children started getting targeted and hurt they should have remained completely dignified throughout , the case may have then had a completely different outcome.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2012 8:47:11 GMT
Look at all the other people who have stayed dignified...where did it get them!!...i dont condone disabled people being hurt...if it actually happned that is...but if your going to be involved with a corrupt council...what can you expect!!... ..x
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Post by hooch on Jul 18, 2012 16:35:08 GMT
Look at all the other people who have stayed dignified...where did it get them!!...i dont condone disabled people being hurt...if it actually happned that is...but if your going to be involved with a corrupt council...what can you expect!!... ..x quite a few managed to get their dogs back! the child didn`t get involved with a `corrupt` council , his mother worked for them he were the totally innocent party but found himself a target , now thats not right at all and anyone who happens to say he `deserved` it because of who his mother happened to work for needs to get their priorities straight. how about all the money taken in donations ? fraud and obtaining money by deception springs to mind , which is being investigated - also now the family are telling people not to use the name `lennox` and to remove his images because they are claiming copyright ....hmmmm , he is not the only dog out there called lennox - laughable! just another way they can try and extort money out of people! lennox was just a `tool` in their sick games.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2012 17:03:37 GMT
Hooch do you work for BCC by any chance!!..x
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Post by hooch on Jul 18, 2012 17:43:02 GMT
Hooch do you work for BCC by any chance!!..x what is that supposed to mean ? just because i don`t agree with the majority and can see past the lies , i work for BCC ? lol i can clearly see i don`t belong on this forum , so i`ll leave you to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2012 17:48:35 GMT
I just think you should drop a bit of the attitude in your reply's..x
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Post by hooch on Jul 18, 2012 17:51:27 GMT
I just think you should drop a bit of the attitude in your reply's..x i have an attitude because i question things?? and please don`t insult me by trying to imply that because i don`t believe everything i read in the press or off the `save lennox ` site that i must work for BCC , couldn`t be further from the truth lol if you really must know i have my own business and live nowhere near ireland , i suppose next you`ll be calling me a liar just like everyone else who feels the same who holds the same opinion as myself , were either called , trolls , liars or threatened with violence now really , i must get on. micki please feel free to either ban my account or delete it but in no way am i having it suggested that because i don`t hold the same opinion as others and question things , that i work for BCC! it`s insulting.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2012 18:09:25 GMT
Hooch the bit about working for the BCC was a joke...dont be so touchy...not everybody is going to have the same opinion on things...and i think you will find that the BCC have covered up a lot...and im not saying its all one sided...x
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Post by hooch on Jul 18, 2012 18:17:46 GMT
Hooch the bit about working for the BCC was a joke...dont be so touchy...not everybody is going to have the same opinion on things...and i think you will find that the BCC have covered up a lot...and im not saying its all one sided...x and it`s the very same `joke` that`s been asked thousands of times already regarding people seeing through certain things. i don`t find it funny.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2012 18:29:06 GMT
What do you mean by that Hooch?..x
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2012 18:37:39 GMT
Im just after seeing your bit to Micki...do you not think thats a bit over the top!!..x
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Post by micki on Jul 18, 2012 22:33:44 GMT
Now now ladies lets keep it friendly.
The internet is full of forums were people fall out over differing opinions. In the years we have been open we have managed to avoid falling out with each other. Even ive had differing opinions to members on here and they with me. We accept that we wont all think and feel the same way as each other. If we did they wouldnt be any discussion. You are both valued members and we dont want to lose either of you. In fact we'd love more members like you. This forum is "ours" that means we share it.
Wina im not banning your account, i have no reason to. You havent broken any rules and i would be saddened to see you leave... So please dont.
Back to the subject. Lennox died. The BCC might be guilty but then again if the family had maintained his licence he wouldnt even have beed taken. Sad i know, and threatening people with violence is just plain wrong.
Lets hope that this case brings to light how maybe things can be handled differently in the future.. I dont know how, but lets hope.
At the end of the day im sure poor Lennox wouldnt have wanted all this trouble.
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Post by hooch on Jul 19, 2012 13:45:58 GMT
understand micki sad fact is it is now starting to effect the lives of other animals and thats not fair at all. benvardin kennels were forced to issue a statement today.
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Post by micki on Jul 19, 2012 14:46:06 GMT
That's awful for the kennels isn't it. Just shows how things snowball. I was thinking about closing this thread now. Its turned into a discussion so we shouldve had it in the debates section rather than keep the whole thing in the petitions section. What do people think?
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Post by hooch on Jul 20, 2012 8:50:42 GMT
can`t you split the thread micki ? just an update - john winters is also known as craig winters who lennox belonged to. this was posted on the rescues wall late last night.
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